Apparently, I intimidate my BIL. Or he's afraid of me. Or he's just a weeny. I can't decide which.
Recently, I posted on my relationship with my in-laws. The BIL I am referencing in this post is the one who lives 5 minutes from me. He's part of the "Dynamic Duo" with his wife, who think they are god's gift to not only the world in general, but our family. They imagine themselves to be "godly", kind, thoughtful, giving, and generous. And they can be....as long as there is something in it for them. BIL fancies himself Mr. All-American. He's the "good guy" in the room, friends with everyone, always there to help. What he doesn't realize is that he is only the good guy on his terms. If you no longer buy his shtick or if he feels he's already converted you, he moves on to his next target.
I wrote about how this BIL and his wife made a huge scene at my son's birthday party, completely ignored us, and didn't say good-bye. They showed up late because they had shopping to do and sent their kids with the grandparents as babysitters. DH and I were convinced that they were angry with us. They barely acknowledged my son and were stand offish, when they even bothered to hang around. The next day was a family funeral. DH was leery but BIL and SIL acted like nothing had happened. We imagine that the two of them had been fighting and were too childish to put it aside to celebrate our son. When I arrived, BIL ignored me. He ignored me or avoided me during the whole funeral. He got up and spoke about "family" and "memories" at the service, but didn't seem to act very much like family after that. Two weekends later, we all attended a family wedding. He was jumpy and distant. He again avoided me like the plague. When I asked him to grab me a drink from the bar, he quickly handed it to me and turned around. When I tried to speak to him and SIL later, he was jumpy and antsy. He wouldn't look me in the eye. He seemed nervous and anxious and hurried to get out of the conversation. Two weeks after that, we ran into him at a football game. He positioned himself behind me, so to just be out of "eye range". He acknowledged all the others around me but "busied" himself when it came to me. Last weekend, we again ran into he and his wife. We were talking to friends and they hoovered in the periphery pretending to be so busy with their kids they didn't notice us. Finally, DH called them over. SIL gave me a snotty hello (which doesn't bother me. I don't take her shit personally). BIL again "busied" himself talking to my friend about babysitters.
So, today, DH and BIL are going somewhere together. Due to logistics, BIL had to come over here. I went outside with my kids to help DH get something. BIL was a distance away, but made a huge deal out of the kids. Again, avoiding me and looking away. I helped DH and went to go inside. By this time BIL was closer. So, I said, "hey, how's it going." as I walked by. The jackass didn't even bother to respond this time.
I'm not really surprised. What was good though is that DH got to see it. I've been telling him about it for weeks, and he believes me, but it was SO validating for him to see it in person. DH and I went inside to say goodbye and I asked him if he had seen the situation. Yes, he had. He'd seen it all. He told me that he would discuss it with him (they will be together for the next few days, so it provides an opportunity to talk about it.) I asked him to confirm that he had experienced what I had. Or had I taken it out of context? Had I behaved in a way that was wrong? I knew the answer, but I needed to know that we were on the same page.
"No" he said. "He ignored you. He's acting anxious and nervous around you." DH told me that I give off a vibe when I'm upset and BIL had clearly picked up on it. DH stated that I completely was valid in my feelings and didn't need to temperate because of BIL's reaction. But that, clearly, BIL was reacting out of fear of me.
But, here's the thing. What the hell is he so afraid of? I'm not a screamer or a yeller. I generally am pretty thoughtful and willing to discuss things. I've heard this bullshit for years too about NMIL. She's nervous around me. She's afraid of me. I make her uncomfortable. And, really, for the life of me, I can't see why. I don't make lots of other people afraid of me. There's been a few who don't like me being blunt or straightforward. But, for the most part, I've never known people to be intimidated by me. What the hell is going on here? I think they are afraid that I'm not going to put up with their shit. They are afraid of conflict. They are little pussies who can't deal with anything unless they have the upper hand. They don't like that I may not agree with them or that they can't bully me into their thinking. I think they are afraid I'll call them out on stuff. I don't know. Do I have any responsibility for their feelings? Am I some scary intimidating bitch?
On the flip side of this, I was thinking how I've allowed my NSis and dad to intimidate me for so many years with fear. I've lived in fear of their anger, their rage, their low blows. They are brilliant at character assassinations They can gut you to make a point. There are not discussions if conflict arises. It's winner takes all. They are stubborn and unyielding. My dad, in particular, always terrified me. When I was little he was a rageful, hard-ass who didn't deal well with alternative opinions. He has since been on antidepressants and has calmed considerable. But I can't shake the fear. I literally quake when I think of doing something to piss him off. I've gotten a lot better about it through this process, but it's still a little nagging thing in the back of my mind. I hate when he adopts his harsh, condescending tone that makes me feel like a small, ignorant child.
So, how can I be both of these people? How can I be so scary yet so fearful at the same time?
Hi Jessie,
ReplyDeleteExcellent post, thank you for sharing it.
When I started to get 'better' and became more in tune with my own feelings and started tackling my fears, I started to be more comfortable in my own skin. I was no longer afraid to say what I thought, and I didn't react to other people in the same way that I always had. People who used to intimidate me or that I had allowed to push me around before, well, I didn't let them do that anymore. Either I stood up for myself to them, usually politely, or I just cocked an eyebrow and found them curious, rather than scary.
I think that as we heal and grow, we settle into ourselves and become very aware of who we are; maybe even begin to accept who we are. And I think that we start to give off a sort of vibe, especially around people who are sort of on the 'outside,' ie, not the people who are causing the core of the hurt in the first place. Years ago, at the beginning of NC (when I was shaking and crying all the time at home,) I was at an outing with acquaintances and heard one of my friends describe me as the "most introspective and self-confident" friend she had. It was a shock to hear that at the time.
And I think that intimidates people who are very weak themselves in some way. That's what I was thinking as I was reading your post, anyway.
Love,
Vanci
Thanks Vanci. You've given me a lot to think about.
Delete"I think they are afraid that I'm not going to put up with their shit. They are afraid of conflict. They are little pussies who can't deal with anything unless they have the upper hand. They don't like that I may not agree with them or that they can't bully me into their thinking. I think they are afraid I'll call them out on stuff."
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I remember the day that NMIL admitted to DH that I scared her. And for once, I believed her. But I don't take it personally. She's afraid of me for the same reasons you mentioned above, and I'm betting your BIL is afraid of you for those reasons too. I think you've hit the nail right on the head.
And the way I see it, fear and "scariness" are two very different things. You can be both "scary" to others and "fearful" of others at the same time because one is something that you project ("scariness," which, in this case is your self-confidence mostly) while being afraid is something that has an effect on you, internally. So one is sort of external and one is more internal. One is how others perceive you and one is how you perceive yourself (and the world around you).
Thanks Jonsi. I'm trying REALLY hard to not take it personally, to not feel responsible for him being afraid of conflict.
DeleteI think the thing is, although I get that I'm (or have been) a fearful person with my family, and occasionally others, I've never thought of myself as an intimidating and scary person to others. Usually, the scary and intimidating people I've known are like that with everyone. So, for just a handful of people to describe me this way, I really couldn't see that. And instead of just excusing it as their problem, I've spent way too much time trying to figure out why I make THEM feel that way. I'm trying hard to believe that THEY make THEM feel that way.
Why are they scared of you? It's because of a little important thing that your BIL and FOO are not interested in upholding:
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Thanks VR. I had suspected that when I wrote this post. And I must admit, I was trolling for a little reality check. :) Part of me felt really, really badly. But part of me was really pissed that he was projecting his crap onto me. Making me out to be the "scary" monster. And I just wanted to make sure I was reading the situation correctly.
DeleteHi Jessie, Seems in this case, their 'fear' is really manipulation disguised as fear. They, perhaps unconsciously, want you to be unnerved and off balance, thinking you make others fearful upsets you, because you have empathy! They use that against you. They project their fear onto you. I agree with you, they are little pussies or big babies, but they are certainly not adults! It's so typically N too eh, how it's so convoluted it's difficult to call them on it. It's too bad they make having a family so uncomfortable and near impossible.
ReplyDeleteThanks Trisha, yes, it's so difficult when it's so convoluted and twisted. They've managed to behave horribly and then "blame" me for calling them on it.
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