"Somebody who can reckon with the past, who can live with the past in the present, and move towards the future - that's fabulous"
Bruce Springsteen
NM posted this on her FB page a few days ago (I turned off her feed and now, only check it when I'm feeling up to it. No surprises.)
I actually think it's a good sentiment and I love me some Bruce. But, I know that NM isn't reading this quote in the same way I am (she has a tendency to be very literal. She's not very good about understanding underlying meanings in things).
I'm almost certain this quote is directed at me. I try not to personalize FB posts and take them as directed at me, but I'm REALLY good at reading NM. And she's fairly obvious.
And it also fits right along with her motto "You've got to be the bigger person." She's constantly saying this to me. That so-and-so needed to be the bigger person. That she was the bigger person. That so-and-so needs to "get over it" and "be the bigger person".
As an example, several years ago when my grandfather turned 80, she wanted to have a party for him. She expected everyone else to feel the same. My grandfather, while mellowed, is a pompous, loud, alcoholic. He has no boundaries and is poor at reading other people's feelings. Since my grandmother died, he has imposed himself on his youngest daughter to be his social life. He goes out to her home once a week and gets good and drunk. And when he's drunk, he's often belligerent. He was NOT a good father. He often left his kids in the truck while he'd go in the bar and drink. His family was always struggling. He allowed my mother to help pay the bills when she became a teenager. He doesn't have many friends (if any). He wasn't an involved grandfather and I was often scared of him. He does have a few good points (and he's been kind to me in recent years, sending cards for my birthday. ) I do think he has some kernels of empathy and kindness. He's not a complete ass. But he's not someone you'd think of "celebrating". My mother's family has lots of issues and dysfunction (imagine that!) and even though they live close, they struggle to be in each other's lives. Generally, they just sort of stay out of each other's way.
So, when no one wanted to go to the party, NM got all on her moral high-horse. Preaching about "letting go" of the past and "getting over their issues for an our to honor grandpa". NM loves to be on her moral high-horse. It's a great pastime for her and she loves to lord over people how thoughtful, considerate, generous, and kind she thinks she is.
Ironically, NM loves to take care of her father and parent him. When my grandmother died, NM was the one taking charge, involved with the doctors, fixing financial messes. She LOVES to parent. Well, she loves to play at parenting. See, for her, she thinks because she floats the old man some money every few months, buys him nice gifts, and takes him to lunch once and awhile, she's the better person. She's "let go" of the past and is doing what she feels so should do for a parent. I don't think I need to point out that gifts, money, and occasional attention does not a parent make. But there's NM for you.
Whatever, despite all of this, she still is horribly dysfunctional. She isn't past her past, but rather pretending it didn't exist. She didn't work through any of it. I doubt she's truly forgiven her father. And further, by now acting as if he is some great guy, I believe she's only doing herself a disservice.
But that's her. I'm done with all that "let bygones be bygones" shit. The quote above was a not-so-subtle reminder than I'm being resentful towards my sister. That I need to just forgive her and move on. That I am being unkind, mean, and petty. That the whole situation would be resolved if I'd just forgive my sister.
What NM can't realize is that I have forgiven my sister (more on forgiveness in a minute). I don't harbor anger or resentment towards her. I spent years forgiving my sister. I forgave her stealing my friends, sleeping with my boyfriends, stealing my cloths, letting her friends steal from me, upstaging me at my wedding, upstaging me at every other big event in my life, causing drama and chaos and stress in my life, screaming at me, yelling at me, beating me up physically. All this, and SO much more, I forgave in my sister. Time and time again. And it never made a damn bit of difference.
Because, see, NM doesn't want forgiveness, she wants you to FORGET. And then allow the same old crap to happen over and over. She wants me to allow my sister to continue to treat me in the same old ways she always has.
Besides the fact that my sister has never actually apologized to me (she doesn't think she did anything wrong, ever), my sister does not change. It's not that she tries and then makes mistakes (I can move past mistakes). It's that she is stuck in the same old patterns and she wants me to play my part. And because I am refusing to have the same relationship, she and my sister think I'm mean.
I've spent so much of my life wanting to be good. Not just to have people like me. But having integrity, kindness, generosity of spirit are important characteristics to me. I wanted to be forgiving. I wanted to make allowances and be non-judgmental. And NM knew this. So whenever she wanted me to do something, she'd pull out the "your not being kind, Jessie" card. She'd accuse me of being mean, spiteful, bitter, and resentful. Of holding grudges (pure projection on NM's part, as she is the Queen of Grudges). I don't hold things against people. I understand people make mistakes. But NM was forever telling me I was harsh, mean, and unkind (as was MIL and any of their minions who felt I wasn't doing enough). And it was an arrow through my heart.
One of the most important steps I took to move past this is that I quite allowing THEM to determine if I was, in fact, kind, good, and living with integrity. In my last post, I discussed how I was never good enough. That the "trying" was slowly killing me. I finally had to start getting some of my ego back. Some of my self-esteem (something which was hard for me. Because GOD FORBID I ever be one of the Ns, who had such self-esteem and ego were through the roof.) Because I was so afraid of being them, I was afraid of allowing myself any ego. Any belief in myself.
So, I worked on that. A lot. I asked myself (and DH and a few friends), am I a good daughter? Of course, it helped to have validation, but the biggest key was learning to define what a "good daughter" looked like to ME. What being a good DIL looked like. And the more I looked, the more I realized, HELL, I AM A GOOD DAUGHTER. I quit allowing them to define me. I quit allowing them to tell me I wasn't good enough.
I am not a perfect daughter. I'm sure I could be better. But I don't do anything for them out of fear, obligation, or guilt. I'm working on not refusing things, just because I'm angry with them. I'm sure my idea of "daughter" and theirs is different, because their definition of good equals 'no boundaries, no needs". Well, too bad. I get to have a say in the relationship too. I'm still working on all of this, but things have become so much easier when I did what I felt I should do for my family. What was an appropriate obligation (I do think there is some obligation that is appropriate) and what was out of bounds. And I try to go with my gut.
I also spent a lot of time working on what forgiveness meant. So many bloggers write (and theologians) that forgiveness doesn't require giving in, having a relationship, or excusing someone's bad behavior. That it's about letting go of the anger and resentment. For me, this also included quitting taking everything they did so personally. It wasn't about me. They were jerks because THEY had issues. And as an adult (more on that in future posts), I could choose to walk away and not allow them to treat me that way anymore. I had to quit taking in personally (meaning I deserved their nasty treatment; that I'd done something that made them act that way towards me). And when I felt I had some control over the situation (let's face it, with Ns, they'll fight you to the death for control, so having a balance of control will never happen), some of the anger and resentment slipped away.
I'm not particularly religious, but I also looked at how forgiveness should effect a future relationship. Articles I looked at (I wish I had exact links, but I'm not sure if I do) often pointed out that God doesn't just "forget" our sins. That God expects repentance and change. That if you keep doing the same thing over and over, that those behaviors are not in the past, but still something you are actively doing in the present. How can you "forgive" someone who is continuing to behave in the way he says he's sorry for? How can you "move past" that which is actively occurring? Fact is, you can't.
And even if God does forgive, it's not like he just whitewashes it away. He stores that information in his mind (I assume, not to speak for God), and looks at people as a WHOLE. Defined by a sum of behaviors. I believe he looks at if you've made any effort to change or make up for your sins.
By my thinking if someone continues to (mostly) treat me poorly, moving away from you is not resentment, bitterness, or anger on my part. It's accepting them for who they are. Dangerous people who will hurt me with the right opportunities. I'm not judging you, I'm just believe you when you show me who you are. And if God only forgives sins once they've been atoned for, why do I have to be any different?
I began to think that continuing to forgive (ignore the obvious) was only hurting me in my relationships. I was being bullied and pushed into believing that I was a bad person for not accepting their piss-poor apologies and just moving on. I had to look at the fact that, despite forgiving people over and over and over, they continued to hurt me.
I've decided to start defining these terms for myself. Letting me decide what is kindness, forgiveness, generosity, and good. Really looking into MYSELF and trying to be the best that I think I can be, instead of always allowing others to determine this for me. And really, why am I allowing the most emotionally challenged around me define what "healthy, normal, moral" behavior looks like? I'm not anymore.
A few last thoughts:
“Forgiveness is not about forgetting. It is about letting go of another person's throat......Forgiveness does not create a relationship. Unless people speak the truth about what they have done and change their mind and behavior, a relationship of trust is not possible. When you forgive someone you certainly release them from judgment, but without true change, no real relationship can be established.........Forgiveness in no way requires that you trust the one you forgive. But should they finally confess and repent, you will discover a miracle in your own heart that allows you to reach out and begin to build between you a bridge of reconciliation.........Forgiveness does not excuse anything.........You may have to declare your forgiveness a hundred times the first day and the second day, but the third day will be less and each day after, until one day you will realize that you have forgiven completely. And then one day you will pray for his wholeness......” Paul Young
Good for you!
ReplyDeleteN's *demand* we forget the past so they can continue trampling all over us repeatedly. In service to them, we are required to hit the "Delete" key every day of our lives. They are entitled to unlimited "do-overs" while we are never able to "do it right" no matter how hard or frequently we try. N's insist we're "holding grudges" when we're exercising our frontal lobes based on a lifetime of experience with them. Effectively, they demand we keep touching that hot stove to remind ourselves we'll get burned/hurt, as if continuing to re-injure ourselves is a *good* thing.
ReplyDeleteNo thanks. That kind of thinking flies in the face of logic and self-preservation, our most primal right. Bruce's comment underscores the reality the past INFORMS the present, that history is, in fact our best-and most demanding-teacher.
I'm not interested in being a "Bigger Person" than anyone else: That's not my responsibility and infers the other is somehow "Less Than." By the same token I'm not interested in being "Less Than" anyone else either: That requires I have NO Self-Respect which is achieved through genuine personal accomplishment, not simply the "Appearance" of such. I refuse to participate in a faux competition that's been rigged by the most amoral beings who use "morality" as a battering ram to further their agenda at my/our expense. Statements such as "you HAVE to," "you MUST" etc. are inherently hierarchal: The person spouting these directives has set themselves up as your Superior. As an adult others can make requests which I'll consider. Demands are immediately a tip off to me I'm being manipulated and disrespected. No thanks to that either.
As Anna V and Kathy K have stated repeatedly, you can't forgive a crime in progress. At every opportunity, the N's are committing crimes against our very personhood, they are fighting us and our right (again) to self-preservation and autonomy as human beings. The Ns have a criminal mindset: The only constraint on their behavior is what they *think* they can get away with which is not based on an internal locus of control but in service to "Appearances." The endless Projections allow them to wipe their nasty off on us and then "punish" us for THEIR transgressions. No thanks. I've got my hands full with my *own* very real human frailties and failings.
"And I try to go with my gut." Jessie, your gut is your best indicator of how to proceed. It's based on history and reality, what you know to be Right, Just and True. It is your personal compass for True North and will not fail you. As you continue to gain in self-confidence you'll learn to trust your gut even more than you do now. There's nothing more beneficial to an N than telling you repeatedly how "wrong" you are in their on-going effort to destroy your spirit.
I'm not sure I've "forgiven" my MN "Mother" or Nsis. I have accepted who they are: Not safe people for me. I did not LC/NC in anger or retribution. My decision was based on decades of personal history with them and the recognition of my powerlessness to effect positive change in our relationship. If my presence wasn't helping-and it wasn't, for any of us-my absence wouldn't hurt. My ego, my hubris kept me plugging away despite reality and in service to my longing for what *I* wanted. It was time for me to step away and as you said, stop FIGHTING reality.
Your words, "I could not UNSEE" your Truth is a statement of fact: That you were even able to reach that point is priceless, a testament to your right to define who you are in this world, not what they would have you believe. You ARE a good person. That the N's refuse to acknowledge your inherent decency and goodness in no way refutes that reality: It simply underscores their concept of their Supremacy and moral bankruptcy.
TW
I like your point about being the "bigger person" being a position of superiority. NM loves to hold it over people how moral and just and righteous she is. (She really has no concept of what that is either. She once scolded me for calling people from Mexico, "Mexicans" . Her boss who is an American, but of Latino decent, didn't like when he was called Mexican -understandable - and so NM then took it upon herself to label me "racist" for calling actual Mexicans, Mexicans.) She thinks she is more moral, wiser, smarter, and far superior to all the "lesser" humans on the planet. And I certainly don't need to be "more than" anyone.
DeleteWow, Jessie, I've read this post over three times and nodded through all of it. You really captured what it's like. IMO there's nothing grudge-like about metaphorically refusing to put your hand in a raging fire one more time, hoping for a different outcome this time. It's just self-care, something ACoNs are trained out of. Your stepping back and refusing to contort yourself to fit their needs is a very healthy, sane action. (Like you, I kept trying harder and harder and harder to be the "good" daughter/sister, until I reached a breaking point and realized how crazy that is.) TW, I agree with your well-worded assertion that N's consider themselves our superiors. I'm dealing with an HR person who is a raging N and is demanding everyone at the customer site come running to her, at her convenience of course (she works an erratic schedule) and do her bidding, and my experience with my NFamily is giving me the strength to identify the behavior and not to fall under her command. A huge, huge thank you to all of you who have offered your own lives and successes up as a blueprint for me to learn how not to engage--"The only way to win is not to play". Thank you for your wisdom.
ReplyDeleteLuloo, my mother is an HR person. Another N I knew was also in a similar position. Maybe there's something to that?
DeleteThanks for your kind words about this post. It's so hard, like you said, for us to learn to take care of ourselves and believe we have the RIGHT to stop putting our hands on the damn hot stove. But we are getting there.
Jessie, I have known two WONDERFUL women who were in HR, so being a raging jackass N can't be mandatory, but yes, I've also encountered some awful ones. My current one takes the cake--she's universally called lazy, arrogant, and incompetent. I'm not sure whether the owner of the company is merely an enabler, or is himself an N; haven't figured that out yet, but the only time he stirs himself from his endless vacations is to throw tantrums and threaten anyone who won't be bullied by his pet HR person.
DeleteYes, Anon, I'm sure there are wonderful HR people too. But, like any position of power, I'm sure Ns are attracted to this particular job position.
DeleteP.S. That last post was me, LuLoo.
ReplyDeleteThis is a wonderful post! You wrote beautifully about concepts that have been misused in our FOO. I love this part: "I've decided to start defining these terms for myself. Letting me decide what is kindness, forgiveness, generosity, and good. Really looking into MYSELF and trying to be the best that I think I can be, instead of always allowing others to determine this for me." This is what I needed to hear and I will come to this again to remind me. xx
ReplyDeleteThank you TR. I'm glad that it will be helpful to you. I actually had to come back to it myself the very next day when NM sent me an absurd email that had to do with my sister. I think it'll take time to fully settle into thinking for myself.
DeleteAs you know, I can relate so much to the position in which you find yourself in relation with your sister. The thing that drives me UP THE WALL about this expectation that "we" should be the "bigger person" is that the same expectation is not applied to our sisters. Why should it ALWAYS be the same person (us) the one to be the "bigger person". And why does anyone have to be the "bigger person" anyway? If this was about a boyfriend instead of a sister, NOBODY would tell us to keep trying, they would tell us to count our loses and walk away. Why should it be any different in any relationship with an impossible person, just because they're related to us? :P
ReplyDeleteYes, I'm always struck by the fact that, even if this person was our husband, if they treated us like our Ns, people would tell us to RUN. To have some self respect and take care of ourselves.
DeleteAnd you are right, it is a double standard about "being the bigger person". What is also maddening for me is that ANY little bit of extension on my sister's part is considered heroic efforts. She "likes" my post on FB? Well, than she is CLEARLY "being the bigger person".
I'm sorry you identify with this, but if we have to go through it, I'm glad it's together. XX
I've encountered "be the bigger person" at work, too. What I believe it actually means is, "Stop speaking up! Stop demanding equality, because you're nothing to me and all I want is peace and quiet." Still trying to figure out how I can be that person that gets catered to. When I figure it out, I'll share with all of you. --LuLoo
DeleteJessie, in the last 3 years of discovering the madness we both share, I have read so many blogs and sites till I'm blue in the face. Your blog continues to speak volumes to me. I guess this would be considered progress because you wrote this 3 days ago and I have not "checked in" to read your latest thoughts. I will be sad someday when you quit blogging because what I have discovered is the more you get healed from this madness, the less you will write/blog or shut down your blog. You write exactly how I feel right now. I too am a good daughter/sister etc. They want me to forget instead of forgive like you wrote but what will be the next "forget" that I need to do yet again? who knows....bottom line is I forgive my nm & my Narc GCSis. I don't hate them but see them as incredibly broken people. However, I won't allow for abuse ever again from them. I too have yet to speak to my GC and it's been almost 3 years. she can call me but I won't call her...there a boundary there that she needs to cross over so I'm not the door mat anymore. Anyway, many blessings to you. I will continue to see if you have posted but like I wrote early in this comment...I have not checked in for a few days so this is progress for me. I don't want to be sad anymore nor am I voraishish for information on this madness we started this life in. Your words mean more than you know....Kel-Ann
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